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Who stands for the children you call a choice? Calling ‘murder’ a ‘choice’ doesn’t obliterate the fact that you just murdered a child.
You’ll regret this stance one day. I know. I am married to a woman who regrets it everyday. The child that was murdered was before I knew her, but I bear the child’s pain everyday, and she bears the pain of guilt and the knowledge that she took her own child’s life.
So sad…
Grow up, before it’s too late.
Hate to burst your bubble there Troy but you need to look up the definition of murder before you use it to try to scare people. Murder means the unlawful killing of another human person. And the last time I checked abortion was legal.
Sorry, Troy, but seeing as how you’ll never bear a child, it doesn’t seem like it’s your desicion to make.
Would you pull the plug on your mom or dad if they were about to die? Seeing how that is lawful but you would never do that would you? Knowing you took your own parents life. Think about it people.
What’s about the ‘its my body’? Is it? The baby by six weeks has its own blood type, bone structure, gender, heart, brain, digestive, and individual genetic code! All of this that is the size of a pea! How can you claim your body, and not allow another to claim their own?! Once a woman has conceived, she needs to put away selfish ambitions, and take responsibility for her actions. In the case of incest and rape, I believe adoption is the best. The one who did the injustice to the woman needs to be dealt with! Two wrongs do not make a right! Since the baby cannot speak for itself, others have to do so. Abortion is taking the life of an unborn child. We are not the ones who should choose whether someone should live or die. Your mother chose life, did she not?
Autumn,
You said -
‘In the case of incest and rape, I believe adoption is the best’
Have you ever been pregnant through rape or incest? How can you, for a second begin to image what BEING FORCED TO KEEP THE CHILD AFTER BEING RAPED would be like to the victim?
I wish that people like you didn’t exist in this world, but sadly you do. Let’s hope that there are too few of you to ever have your views enforced.
NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO KEEP THE CHILD!
it’s not the child’s fault for being conceived because of evil done to the mother! i’m not downplaying the rape! rape is a horrible, HORRIBLE thing, and the perpetration must be dealt with! don’t punish an innocent child because of someone elses wrongdoing!
i feel it sad that people like you exist in this wretched world. who believe that taking the life of an INNOCENT child is ok if the mother was hurt. the mother and the child are both the victims in this case. the real problem is not the child, but the one who forced the rape. there are too many people who downplay the life of the child. how about some of you stop thinking so much about yourself, and stop and think about how your actions affect the child inside of you?
You’re right, nobody is forced to keep the child. Thankfully. Let’s hope that the cruelty you preach is never made into law.
My point is simple. The fact that you believe that a woman or girl who has been raped should bring the child to term makes YOU one of the greatest CAUSES of this worlds WRETCHEDNESS.
Why can’t you see this?
A fetus is not a child. An early aborted fetus feels no pain.
Do you not think it is slightly EVIL of you to not be able to EMPATHIZE with the woman? What kind of biblical psychopathic delusion is preventing you from understanding the simple reality of rape and abuse. VICTIMS OF RAPE don’t want to carry their rapists baby to term. They want to cleanse their bodies and heal. And thankfully we live in a country where they are free to do so.
Your view makes you as loathsome as the rapist in that you want to further the victims punishment.
What’s next? Will you suggest that victims of rape pay for their own rape kits - like that idiot Sarah Palin did.
Ok, let’s take your argument of a fetus is not a child into play. If we do not know when ‘life begins’ or ‘full humanness’ is attained then there is nothing wrong with butchering a 2 year old, drilling a whole in its skull and then sucking its brains out. A baby can feel pain by the end of the second month, it has a heartbeat, brain activity, digestive system all functioning by the end of the first month. At conception it fits the biological definition of life: it has metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and cell reproduction. That’s life according to scientists.
i do feel empathy for the woman. no woman or man should go through the pain of rape. it’s an evil. an evil done to a human being. Pro-choice women claim they have an absolute right to an abortion because it is their body. Let’s stick with that argument. So I can walk into any hospital and demand that they cut my arm off because I want them to and its my body. I decide one day i no longer want my right arm so I walk into a hospital and say…I’m just tired of this arm. Whack it off doc! Not only is that example insane, it’s illegal for a doctor to perform such a procedure! Just because it is my body does not mean i can do whatever i want with it. Thus the reason prostitution and suicide are illegal! The argument for its my body does not permit you to do ‘whatever’ you want with it under your own circumstances.
and the fact that you are calling me one of the greatest cruelty to this world, is an insult. not only to me, but to you. you’re blaming me for the rape and sadness in this world? do you even live on the same earth as me? i am not the ones out there raping women and causing heartache. i, simply am hoping that women have the same courtesy their mothers did, and choose life. a child is not a burden as you so lovingly put it. and ask any mother, the love a woman has for her child is like that of none other.
You’re right, Autumn, we don’t live in the same world.
You relish in the enslavement of women and believe that they shouldn’t be autonomous. You may not be raping women but you want to punish them for being raped.
You use the same anti-woman cliches that every delusional pro-lifer does.
If you think that a human fetus has importance by virtue of its being human - that makes you speciesist. That burger that you ate last night came from an animal that was sentient and more cognitively developed at the time of its death than any human fetus.
I think that any pro-woman person arguing for choice would stop at saying that aborting a fetus is equivalent to killing a two year old, so your comparison there was desperate and petty.
The difference between you and I is that I believe that all people should be free to choose what they do with their own bodies and you do not.
I have to respect you though, for not bringing religion into the argument. Then I couldn’t take you seriously at all.
we are never going to see eye-to-eye on this. For you’re arguing for the woman, someone that has choices and chooses to do what is right in her eyes. According to her own convictions. I am fighting for a child who has done nothing wrong, and can’t choose for itself. It relies on it’s mother to do that. I believe that from conception, the fetus is a child. I have given you scientific evidence as to why I believe what I have believe and you go back to the fact that I think a woman should be punished for getting raped. No. The rape is punishment enough. Young men and women need to be educated better on how their actions affect others. And the difference between that burger sloshing around in my digestive trac and that fetus in a woman’s stomach is this; the cow was bred to slaughter, the child will grow up to become a human like you and me. With ideals. They may end up becoming a lawyer, set on sending those who rape to jail. You never know until you give them a chance. Give people a chance, they may end up suprising you.
“The cow was bred to slaughter”?
Are you kidding me? That is an appalling and anthropocentric thing to say. If I bred a child to eat, would that justify my eating it?
Oh, let me guess, all living beings in the universe are created for human beings to use? The Earth is the center of the universe and everything revolves around finite human interests?
It is terribly vain to suppose that human beings can give and take value based upon an inconsistent and prejudicial whim.
Please keep in mind that at one time white Americans ‘bred’ black people to be slaves. Was this also justified on your view?
No one has a right to enslave another person. Forcing a woman, who wants an abortion, to carry a pregnancy to term is enslaving her for the sake of the child. She does not give permission to the child to reside inside her, yet some of you people seem to think that this is okay?
I do not tell you what you can and cannot do with your bodies, please do not tell me what to do with mine.
If you are against abortion, don’t have one. It is that simple.
Fall, let’s not forget that not all abortions are performed on children conceived by rape! Majority of those KILLINGS are done to children conceived by irresponsible mothers who chose not to protect themselves from unwanted pregnancies, those who have more sexual play partners that they can count and those who just don’t care for nothing and anybody besides themselves. Moral ZEROS!
Where would you be if it was YOUR MOTHER who was so forthcoming with her “My BODY, MY RIGHT, MY CHOICE” attitude, just like you are today!?
I was one of those people holding an “Abortion KILLS Children” signs yesterday in my City. I felt so sorry, for one young “lady” who took our picture, gave us “thumbs down” and drove off. Perhaps, just like you she didn’t have a chance to grow up yet.
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